Posts by The Almighty Homer

49

Ray Franz Views of "Information Control" by WT Society Agree with Hassan

by flipper in

jw
friends

having read ray franz's " crisis of conscience " 3 years ago -before i read steve hassan's 2 books on mind control - my wife and i thought it would be good to re-read ray's " crisis " book again now that we know more about the workings of " cult mind control".

we just finished chapter 2 and i noticed striking similarities i thought i would share.. notice this quote in " crisis of conscience " on pg.

28 & 29 by franz , " thus numerous factors that are relatively common knowledge in many religious organizations are known only vaguely , if at all, by the vast majority of jehovah's witnesses.

The Almighty Homer

In the mindset of every indoctrinated JWS there is put in the suggestion that the JWS is the only true religion

guided by god's holy spirit. Its the very reason why when a JW asks about a certain person is he or she in " The Truth " ?

When that structured belief gets broken apart its a tail spinning experience, which for a person that was situated at the top

of this belief system, must have developed an enormous amount of emotional turmoil. Acclimating the fact that he was tossed out

of closely devised social environment, lost all his prestige and personal stature that he had obtained, then its not unreasonable

to perceive that he really had something to express and get off his chest.

Hey I'm sure he's written his books to sell and make some money off them, but also to tell his story

of his own life with an organization that wasn't really telling " The Truth " after all, can't really fault a guy for doing that can we now ?

57

You are Still Special After Exiting the Witnesses-You Have a Purpose in Life

by flipper in

jw
friends

i wanted to post this as we have so many new ones on the board here - i thought they might benefit from some uplifting words from steve hassan's book " releasing the bonds " .

many newly exiting the jw 's feel lost , like they don't know what to do , or where to turn, what causes that ?

notice these quotes from steve hassan .. on pg.

The Almighty Homer

I think it should be stated that some of the controlled moral behaviors controlled and impressed onto a

typical JW are not all bad, there is some good and virtuous guidance being put forth, which could be said of many religious faiths

and organized beliefs. But for most of us that left there was too much of the bad disingenuous stuff to continue fully supporting the

organization as a whole. As they say no need to throw the baby out with the bath water, when the baby is just fine.

28

ONE MORE TIME!: Yet another climate post.

by villabolo in

rain, winds, record heat hit northeast on same dayby david sharp, associated press writer david sharp, associated press writerthu dec 3, 5:47 pm et end .byline portland, maine a storm packing blustery winds and driving rain knocked out power to thousands of homes and businesses in the northeast on thursday before giving way to sunny skies and record high temperatures all in the same morning.utility officials reported sporadic power outages from maine to new jersey after wind knocked down trees and power lines early thursday.

winds reached up to 49 mph in brunswick, maine, while the isle of shoals off the coast of new hampshire recorded a 61 mph gust.

in new jersey, wind speeds topped out at 45 mph.. but the rain and wind that battered the region early thursday gave way to sunny skies and unseasonably high temperatures by mid-morning.. in boston, the temperature hit 69 degrees, breaking the old record of 65 set in 1932. in portland, the temperature climbed to 68 degrees crushing the old high of 55 for the date.

The Almighty Homer

I say even if it was all just lose and weak scientific speculation that is causing global warming .....So What !

Pushing the industrial world community to think and act in a environmentally sensitive way is only going to be for are own benefit in the long run.

Putting awareness out there into the world's community of keeping the earth's environment clean and sustainable will

only play out well for future generations. The earth's population is on a constant growing trend especially considering the fact that

heavily populated countries such as China and India are now getting more modernized with more of their population driving

fossil fueled burning vehicles as well as many of South American countries. Could you imagine every big city in the US or in Canada

not stink of air pollution because of most of the cars and trucks are driven by electricity or by other means, to coin a modern youthful term.......SWEET

Its obvious that its going to be a long way off when you see trains, air planes, heavy transport trucks etc. running on non-pollutant propulsion

but at least in are generation we can set the technological foundation for that to happen for future generations.

49

Ray Franz Views of "Information Control" by WT Society Agree with Hassan

by flipper in

jw
friends

having read ray franz's " crisis of conscience " 3 years ago -before i read steve hassan's 2 books on mind control - my wife and i thought it would be good to re-read ray's " crisis " book again now that we know more about the workings of " cult mind control".

we just finished chapter 2 and i noticed striking similarities i thought i would share.. notice this quote in " crisis of conscience " on pg.

28 & 29 by franz , " thus numerous factors that are relatively common knowledge in many religious organizations are known only vaguely , if at all, by the vast majority of jehovah's witnesses.

The Almighty Homer

Just to clear things up a little about Ray Franz and his involvement with the WTS., Ray was just another typical JW who

followed along with the teaching of the WTS. and was fully emerged as one, in essence a true believer.

It wasn't until he reached to the top of the organization as a GB member, which essentially is the writing and editing

department, that after some of his own research things were just not adding up. One of the first things he mentions

in his book CoC, after some personal research from other sources he found that the destruction of ancient Jerusalem was not

in the year that the WTS. had said it was in and other investigations continued on from there. I think after a while

he found within himself that the JW organization was not what they were proclaiming to be after all and it unsettled

his conscience to a point that he couldn't continue on with the organization, so he left.

In other words he acknowledged that the guiding power of god wasn't really there, what was there though was only the power of men.

100

To you what was the Watchtower Socity's biggest lie ?

by The Almighty Homer in

yes, what was the biggest lie that you can think of, that persuaded you to realize that they were not who they said they were ?.

for myself it would have to be the year they picked as the destruction of ancient jerusalem 607 bc.. i have an assumption this was done purposely to coincide correctly with making 1914 an a important pivotal date.

in human history, which by all factual evidence it was not.. unassuming and deceiving manipulation for self marketing purposes.

The Almighty Homer

I just thought of another ever present lie by the Watchtower Society/Corporation and that is the organization is a non-profiting

religious publishing house, the main and real reason why disingenuous and crooked men took it over was that it was already a house of money,

gravitated and created mostly by C T Russell, a publishing house that got most of its work done by (almost free labor ) and marketed to the public freely

by people. Now do you have some money to give to the organization so this important work can continue. ?

And people are surprised when they hear the WTS is worth over a billion Dollars $$$

Religion can truly put you closer to god and money...........Amen

16

Is there any hope for the uneducated Jw's?

by highdose in

jw
friends

i was thinking of the ones who would say to me " i don't like to read/study" " i'm not really academinc".

are these people doomed to blindly follow the gb forever, thinking that all the study has been done for them and they will just belive what they are told?.

is it mainly the smart thinking people who leave?.

The Almighty Homer

Designed and controlled information is how organizations maintain their strength and power over others.

Without these controls they risk losing support and as is the case with the JWS leadership, a lifestyle and living, which can not be

over looked.

46

UN scandal

by inbetween in

lately i did a lot of reading regarding the un scandal, the org being a ngo for 10 years.

i tried to read both sides, the comments on jwfacts.com, as well as the defense at jehovahsjudgment.co.uk.. and then the endless discussion on topix.com between thirdwitness and alanf and others.. while i am sure, the way the org handled the whole situation, especially after the article in the guardian, was plain wrong, instead of openly confessing a mistake, it was done secretely and only after inquiry, and made it look like a cover-up.. .

however, considering the whole issue, i think it comes down to one question:.

The Almighty Homer

The WTS. got caught with their pants down its as simple as that and nothing else.

Its not uncommon for religious organizations to do things out of sight and ear from their

devoted flock. Did they come up with a good plausible excuse for why they joined the UN

and signed up as NGO. .... No

Did they quickly retract their membership when the information about what they did was being exposed ..... YES

End of story.

Rules and doctrines don't necessary have to be held up by the arrogant hierarchy of these organizations,

there is truly a lot that gets hidden by themselves when they're out in their self marketing progression.

16

Is there any hope for the uneducated Jw's?

by highdose in

jw
friends

i was thinking of the ones who would say to me " i don't like to read/study" " i'm not really academinc".

are these people doomed to blindly follow the gb forever, thinking that all the study has been done for them and they will just belive what they are told?.

is it mainly the smart thinking people who leave?.

The Almighty Homer

If people want to open their minds to new information then there is always the possibility of realizing what is fact and what is reality.

Closed mindlessness occurs mostly in people who have been controlled in the information that they have received,

much like the JWS organization and many other religious organizations. Its quite a interesting anomaly to have a group

of people unite themselves in nothing more that stupid human ignorance and support that ignorance vigorously

but this suits certain people, it essentially brings a confidence building identity as a group think, rather

than a separate identity. Education is seen as a threat to the leaders of these

kinds of organizations, even though these select leaders take advantage of all the necessary medical advancements to keep

themselves a live. This goes also to many elderly devout JWS who most likely would be dead today if not taking or

making use of these medical advancements. Its both a exploitation and a hypocrisy.

Being a JW is a mind trap in the purest form, which in itself retards intellectual growth and advancement.

49

Are there any atheists that experienced demons atacks?

by outofthebox in

jw
friends

well?

.

The Almighty Homer

Yes I will, I also leave up crime scene tape around the bathroom to warn of demon sightings and smellings.

49

Are there any atheists that experienced demons atacks?

by outofthebox in

jw
friends

well?

.

The Almighty Homer

I experience a demon attack usually after I eat Mexican food.

Curse you Satan